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He Predicted Marketing Automation and ABM.  What’s Next?!

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This week's show is called "He Predicted Marketing Automation and ABM.  What’s Next?!" and our guest is Jon Miller, CMO at Demandbase

I ask Jon how do we get beyond ABM? If this is a marketing exercise, you're neutering its impact from the beginning. 

The account-based revolution isn't over. 

There's a reason why everybody has adopted account-based, but traditional demand generation is fishing with a net, whereas account-based marketing is fishing with a spear.  You throw your net out, you see what you catch, you don't know what you catch versus you go after the big fish.

But I've been thinking a lot about the limitations of both ABM and fishing with a spear. And partly, it just comes down to...

It doesn't feel very good to get poked by a spear.

I think, fundamentally the fact that with traditional ABM, we would identify the accounts we really wanted to go after, and we'd go after them, regardless of whether they were interested in hearing from us or if it was the right time. And so, you end up having this world where we were doing traditional demand gen, which was great, because we only called people who had high scores and we thought really actually were ready to be called. With ABM, we were calling people regardless of whether they were interested.

Is there some way to merge these concepts?

Is there some way to bring the engage-ability of inbounds with the precision and targeting of ABM?

I think I've come up with a concept that I've been playing with a little bit, and that's the phrase of account-based experience, or ABX. And I think account-based experience is a customer-centric rethinking about how you go after accounts, but really rooted on that buyer experience.

It's about engaging with these modern buyers on their own terms, letting them be anonymous when they want to be anonymous, being really helpful and relevant when they're ready, always based on trust.

And the other cool part about ABX is it fixes the biggest problem in the ABM name, which is it had marketing in there. And as we all know, it's bigger than just marketing. It's got a hold on the market team. 

This and A LOT MORE! Listen in now or read the full transcript on the Heinz Marketing Blog starting Mon. 2/8/21 at 6am PST.

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Why Culture Plays Such an Important Part of ABM – Advice from Jon Miller

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Jon Miller, CEO and Co-Founder of Engagio is interviewed by host Matt Heinz on the subject of the culture changes necessary to make ABM work.  Don’t be surprised to hear how much of the responsibility is on marketing.

  • Culture is a big part of making ABM work internally.  How do you encourage people to make the right internal moves to be successful with ABM?
  • This isn’t all-or-nothing, right?  How does ABM integrate with other key marketing priorities moving forward?
  • One of my biggest concerns with the term ABM is the “marketing” part of it, but “everything” feels too broad.  How do you think about that? 

About our guest: Jon Miller

Jon is a marketing entrepreneur and thought leader. He is currently the CEO and Co-Founder of Engagio, an account-centric platform to orchestrate and measure Account Based Marketing and Sales Development efforts at named accounts. Previously, Jon was a co-founder at Marketo (Nasdaq:MKTO), a leader in marketing automation.

Marketing technology innovator, with previous leadership roles at Epiphany and Xchange, plus board/advisory roles at Scripted, Newscred, and Optimizely.

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How to Fish with a Spear, Not a Net - Jon Miller of Engagio

episode-card-250-jon-miller.jpgOur guest is Jon Miller, CEO and Co-Founder of Engagio. Here are some of the questions Matt covers:

  • When did you see the ABM wave coming?  At what point did you start to realize that lead-based wasn’t going to cut it anymore?
  • One of my biggest concerns with the term ABM is the “marketing” part of it, but “everything” feels too broad.  How do you think about that? 
  • Culture is a big part of making ABM work internally.  How do you encourage people to make the right internal moves to be successful with ABM?
  • This isn’t all-or-nothing right?  How does ABM integrate with other key marketing priorities moving forward?

About our guest: Jon Miller

Jon is a marketing entrepreneur and thought leader. He is currently the CEO and co-founder of Engagio, an account-centric platform to orchestrate and measure Account Based Marketing and Sales Development efforts at named accounts. Previously, Jon was a co-founder at Marketo (Nasdaq:MKTO), a leader in marketing automation.

Marketing technology innovator, with previous leadership roles at Epiphany and Xchange, plus board/advisory roles at Scripted, Newscred, and Optimizely.

Explaining the prediction and arrival of the ABM wave

episode-card-250-jon-miller.jpgOur guest is Jon Miller, CEO and Co-Founder of Engagio. Here are some of the questions Matt covers:

  • When did you see the ABM wave coming?  At what point did you start to realize that lead-based wasn’t going to cut it anymore?
  • One of my biggest concerns with the term ABM is the “marketing” part of it, but “everything” feels to broad.  How do you think about that? 
  • Culture is a big part of making ABM work internally.  How do you encourage people to make the right internal moves to be successful with ABM?
  • This isn’t all-or-nothing right?  How does ABM integrate with other key marketing priorities moving forward?

About our guest: Jon Miller

Jon is a marketing entrepreneur and thought leader. He is currently the CEO and co-founder of Engagio, an account-centric platform to orchestrate and measure Account Based Marketing and Sales Development efforts at named accounts. Previously, Jon was a co-founder at Marketo (Nasdaq:MKTO), a leader in marketing automation.

Marketing technology innovator, with previous leadership roles at Epiphany and Xchange, plus board/advisory roles at Scripted, Newscred, and Optimizely.

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